How can anyone claim the world is 6000 years old?

Niagara falls is about 12,000 years old, a little bitty baby in geologic time.





...it's moving. If you go there you can compare pictures from previous decades with today. If you go there repeatedly, you can see the change yourself.





Based on the speed of change, it's really easy math to calculate how long it took to go from point A to point B....(especially since it's now slower.)





You just can't make it 6000 from that math...ever.





That evidence is local to me, but evidence is all around us!How can anyone claim the world is 6000 years old?
It's mind boggling, it really is





You have to totally ignore evidence and realityHow can anyone claim the world is 6000 years old?
rebel it's religious carbon dating with a spin a bottle approach
They are willfully ignorant.
Damned if I know
They're dumb.
They have their noses too buried in their bible to notice the evidence, I'm afraid.





Except to comment that ';nature is beautiful, and so it's obvious god created it';.
The Bible does not say when in the beginning was. They can't
I don't know. It seems insane to me. And sad. It's really sad that some people are so brainwashed that they'd believe anything.
Or you can just study geologic plate movements. That works too.
Because they have on blinders and believe what a book says that was written by man many many years ago. They seem to think all this science stuff is make believe.





Well that's my thoughts on it.
For the same reason people can believe that it was created in 6 days by a sky daddy
I don't know anyone that believes the planet to be ONLY 6,000 years old.





It is a fact that the Bible presents a history of humans only going back a little more than 6,000 years.





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For Niagra falls to be 12 K old, the world would have to be at least 6k.
Literal reading of the bible and provided genealogy.





In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.....around 6000 years ago.





4400 years ago there was a world wide flood that killed all but 8 people and 2 of each (and 7 of some) kind for animals.





If the earth is older we have a huge population problem.





The assumption that the change rates are constant, are in error, and examples of bad science.





Earths magnetic field, lunar distance for tidal activity are two examples.
A large helping of brainwashing tends to do the trick.
anything can be carbon dated to millions of years...given enough pressure applied to the object. even a rock from my back yard could be carbon dated to a billion years ago....doesn't mean it's a billion years old......


i claim the belief that the earth is only thousands of years old, also.....





****obviously the word 'billion' is a hyperbole.....
What you seem unable to understand is that there is a small group of believers that think when shown incontravertable evidence, like that you mentioned, to stick to their beliefs is a pius display of their faith. You cant reason with this.
Because the world is older than 6000 years old. Its just common sense.
Such people give my religion such a bad name.





I really wish Jesus would just come back and explain why the bible teaches things the way it does.





Christians today are driving more people away from Christ than Satan ever could.
Because of not understanding what the Bible is, and is not saying...





The bible does not tell us how old the Earth is.


Genesis 1:1 tell us that in the beginning God created the heavens and the Earth. Then, verse 2 tells us the earth proved to be formless, and subsequent verses incorporating the 6 'days', describe the 'Terraformation' ( i.e. the making habitable) of the Earth and the creation of life on it. So the Earth could have existed for countless billions of years in its formless, barren uninhabitable-planet state mentioned in Genesis 1:2.


It is impossible to know exactly how long each of the days mentioned in Genesis 1 are. In the Bible the term 'day' can refer to a 24 hour period or to a general time period that can incorporate many years - the way we might say 'in my day...' refering to our childhood which would span years. Notice how the word day is used in Genesis 2:4.


It is possible however to calculate how long man has lived on Earth based on the genealogy found in the Bible.





It is also important to note that current carbon dating techniques are based on assumptions that could well turn out to be false.


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maybe it was created yesterday, and everyone has fake memories
They don't use that organ between thier ears.
We believe the history of man is about 6000 years old. But, for you to leap to the assumption that the erosion rate observed recently at Niagara Falls proves the world greater than 6k years old is not correct. Who says the NF was even there pre-flood? Yes, I believe in the great flood. Who says all conditions seen today have always been? Rate of flow of water and that sort of thing. That is exactly why there is so much discrepancy over dating methods. Nothing is constant. Nothing.
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?sea鈥?/a>
Creation means to create living, the world.


Gods choose the Earth for this purpose. Yet the Earth was formed before creating the world, it was a big star etc.


Before creating on the earth, heavens and the earth was created (Genesis 1:1)


The Earth was formless and empty, and darkness was over the surface of the deep before the first day of the Creation.


After that God started to work on the Earth.





Lastly God created Adam, it was almost 6000 years ago.


Still, God created him on the Sixth Day, and on the end of the Sixth Day.


We do not know how long lasted Days in the Creation.
I know this is difficult, but you're missing an important part of the problem.





You're using words like ';math'; and ';calculate'; and ';it';. I went to High School in Arkansas - it's not just the Bible Belt, it's referred to as the Buckle. I personally know several people who believe the planet is only 6000 years old. I've heard their argument many times because I've questioned them about it.





All of them had the same reasoning. Scientists lie. And they change their theories all the time. Dinosaur bones? Scientists planted them. This Niagara Falls you speak of? I've never seen it. You can ';make up'; any statistics you want, that doesn't make them true. But the Bible, that's the word of God. Unlike science, the word of God doesn't change.


I've heard these exact arguments from:


A girl who asked if chickens had arms in math class.


A girl who though ';intelligent'; meant ';friendly';.


A girl who thought oral sex had something to do with feet


A guy who cleaned his ears out with a pocket knife.
What is funny is none of my Christan friends find this an important spiritual sticking place. They see the Genesis story as something of an allegory and while they are opened to the possibility of sixth literal days etc. They believe that whatever age the earth is and how ever it formed, God is at the root of its beginning. They do not see how that applies to them. Jesus did not obsess on this, so they don't either. This is not what their faith is based on and it is not so easily shaken. I think those who maintain that Genesis is literal and the earth MUST only be 6,000 years old are doing so out of a fear that their faith will be destroyed if the Bible cannot be taken 100% literally from begining to end.
I will have to look up your claim to the age of Niagra Falls. Off the top I rather well know that you have to make an assumption to arrive at 12,000 years which casts an enormous shadow of doubt on your calculation. There are quite a few natural chronometers for calculating the age of the Earth, our Solar system and the universe. It is rather safe to say that you were only taught one or two of them, especially radiometric dating for which there are several assumptions, some already falsified. There is also the problem of calibrating such methods. The question now is, are you willing to look at the hard evidence and calculations which establish a ';young'; Earth and directly challenge the ToE timeline?





edit: Ok, I looked it up.





http://www.niagarafrontier.com/origins.h鈥?/a>





There is some solid math involved with calculating current erosion rates and extrapolations towards the conclusions of past status. As usual though, the further away from the present you get, the more assumptions play a part of the math (such as the origin, shape and structure of the original escarpment) and the more these assumptions are presented as fact the more unbelievable they become, esp when any alternate explanation is met with ridicule. These phenomenon are consistent with conditions before, during and after a global flood but since such a flood is mentioned in the Bible, they are immediately discarded. Sounds fishy to me.
Because of translational problems in the original text of the ';Old Testament';. Some translate it as a day is as a thousand years and a thousand years is as a day to God. Others believe the authors could not comprehend a billion or trillion so they settled for a thousand. So it could have taken God 6 Billion years to create the heavens and Earth. That is about right. (He rested on the seventh day).
Based on math and common sense and science, it doesn't make sense. People that insist that the earth is only 6,000 years old, don't care about the truth, or reason, or they are afraid to disagree in case they are shunned by the ones they follow.
I don't know many people that claim for the world to be only 6,000 years old..it is obviously way older than that!
Aren't you the very pinnacle of the avant-garde.





People claim all sorts of things. St Teresa was right : Beware of people who are easily scandalized !!