Survival of the fittest...I keep hearing that as justification of how our White ancestors took over the land..

We were stronger...we were more civilized...we were more educated...we fought with the more sophisticated weapons...we prevailed over the Natives so we deserve to be here. We won that right. Right? Those who tire of hearing of what our ancestors did to the Natives because it was ';so long ago'; (a few hundred years) are quick to point out that the Natives had also conquered peoples to live here (thousands of years ago.) So why is everyone so up in arms about the Hispanics coming? Maybe it's their turn to be here. Despite our greatest man-made laws, walls or border patrol the Hispanics keep coming. It won't matter what we do because God remembers what we did. We need to learn to accept the new immigrants %26amp; live in peace just as the Natives had to do with us. Those Natives who chose not to do so DIED for that decision. If you want things to change, change yourself. Change your heart. We claim ';survival of the fittest'; as our right to be here. Maybe we aren't the fittest anymore.Survival of the fittest...I keep hearing that as justification of how our White ancestors took over the land..
Survival of the Fittest wasn't what stole the Indians lands....it was Manifest Destiny.....



And, you don't know what you are talking about. What your ancestors did to the natives of this land - IS STILL GOING ON or haven't you been keeping up.



The U.S. made over 300 treaties with the people of this land - and broke everyone of them. The last of the Indian wars were in th 1880's and 1900....my grandfather and grandmother and their parents were alive then...my grandfather died when I was 35, great grandfather died when I was 23....so don't tell me about how long ago it was.



They lost their land thanks to the policy of genocide perpetrated against our people by the land and gold hungry invaders.Survival of the fittest...I keep hearing that as justification of how our White ancestors took over the land..
Gods are made of myth and fable and are used to justify any behavior.



What puts people where they end up being are usually wars and slaughter caused by fear, ignorance and greed.



Every war throughout history has been waged in the name of one god or the other. Excuses!!

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Do you really expect American citizens to bend over backwards to these criminals?



Keep dreaming.
If it was wrong then it's still wrong now.
Are you out of your mind?
So you are suggesting a battle is that what you are saying?



This isnt just about the USA really. Much of the world is dependant on the economy of the USA.



And as to your comment about who is the fittest.... take a look at the people that come here, the economy of mexico, the government of mexico etc... do you really think that they are teh fittest?
Quit trying to make this into a racial issue
Is that you Ted Kennedy?You loser.
First, the land here was settled by men carrying white man's burden; educate and convert the heathens and never mind the method.The natives were just as civilized and religious and their civilization was just as sophisticated as ours but it was DIFFERENT and therefore, savage.



The natives that died for the decision would have died anyway because we superior whites were practicing GENOCIDE!!!!! Probably would have gotten them all but we didn't have enough smallpox-laced blankets to give them. You better beleive God is going to remember that.



So, using your logic, it is perfectly alright for the influx of Mesoamericans to kill everybody in this country because they want to live here.



You go first. I'll catch up.
I partially agree with some of the things you say but there is too much hate on this forum to discuss a topic like this.For example the Aztecas could have defeated the spaniards. Then taken their ships to Spain and conquered Spain. Apparently God chose them to be defeated. Same thing with the American Indians.
I don't agree with you and I will never accept them. I would rather die than betray my country,countrymen and all those who have paid in blood for this nation like that. No way,not today,not ever.
It's called WAR ON THE HOMEFRONT ... and we will see just who is the fittest ... and lemme tell you, it isn't going to be any imaginary bloodline of morons. Speaking of, why do the bumbling fools who claim aztlan act like miscreants? From reading history, I've found that the Aztec people weren't assholes. Why hasn't THAT passed through the non-existent bloodline?
We really aren't fit to hold the land any more if we are ready to sell our children's inheritance for a few cents off on the price of vegetables.
Whaaaat? Maybe it's their turn to be here?



Ok, here is the scenario.



Let's just roll over let anyone that wants to be her just walk across a boarder and say ';It's mine. I deserve to be here, so **** you!';



Then what should we do with you? Send you back to your ancestral country of origin? It's their turn to be here, right?



History is HISTORY! This is about here and now. We need to learn from history, we don't need to indulge in historical guilt trips.



You didn't do anything to the Native Americans. You didn't do anything to the Mexicans. Why do you feel like they deserve the land your ancestors bled for and developed and nourished into this great nation?



Mexicans need to get some guts and take care of their own problems. We took care of our own problems by developing this land, and kicking out our imperial rulers, and fostering democracy throughout the rest of the world.



The Mexican people have a strong history of independence, and they need to find that again and get rid of the corruption in their own country. They have one of the best land masses in the world for economic growth. They have the largest modern city in the world. Why can't they fix their social/political/economic problems on their own turf?



It's not like America is out to conquer Mexico. We are not imperialists. We have enough problems in this country without adding the problems of another country in the mix. Then we have to deal with militant illegal immigrants who want to make demands in OUR country?



Are you kidding me?
Mexico is a cesspool that is why the illegals and legals come here.US is still top dog only thing is we are soft and have grown lazy.
Assuming that survival of the fittest was the reason, one has to remember that the Native Americans fought back against the Europeans. It wasn't as if they said, ';Oh, the white men are more powerful and they have the best technology. Okay, they can force us to live on reservations. We'll get back at them in a hundred years with casinos and civil rights laws anyway.';. Survival of the fittest is a struggle. One must overcome the obstacles. If one doesn't, then that person isn't the fittest.



Besides, what is better, live in submission and possible misery, or make the people that think they are the best fight for every inch and privilege? Now, a completely hypothetical, and possibly ludicrous situation that can ring true in a metaphorical sense: Aliens come to Earth, and they wish to make us their slaves. Or, not even slaves. Just that we humans cannot ';own'; the Earth as we have done for thousands of years. Would you sit back and just say, ';Okay, they're the fittest. It's their turn.';? For the sake of humanity, I hope not.
Who was here first? People from around France.